A lovely photograph of Skinningrove, not a lot has changed; the hospital has gone, as has Albion Terrace., which is the row of terraced houses in the foreground of our image. We asked can someone please help with was Albion Terrace once known as Long Row?
Peter Day asked: “Was this once called Albion Place? I have a family history going back and according to information they left, they once lived at Albion Place, which seems to no longer exist.”
Colin Hart advises: ”The terrace in the front of the picture is Albion Place which was demolished along with High Street, Chapel Street, Cliff Terrace and half of Marine Terrace in the 1980’s. Long Row is mentioned in one of the Skinningrove census records and the numbers are 1 to 28; the only street in Skinningrove with these numbers is New Company Row, built by Skinningrove Iron Co. When the terraced houses were built in the 1870′s they started at 1 Marine Terrace and the numbers continued until they ended with 172 Grove Hill.” Derick Pearson tells us: ”I may be wrong but I feel sure from my memories of old friends in the 1950s that this row of houses was once called YON FAR BACK by the locals.” Whilst Pauline Breeze asks: ”I am researching my family history back to Skinningrove, my great-grandparents were Will and Amelia (Wallace) Hart: 106 Albion Place, many great memories visiting them, my question is does anybody have any information on the people that lived there before them, William Smith family perhaps? Any info appreciated, also are you related to my family?”
There were also comments to this image regarding the Smith or Workman Smiths from Elaine, Easton family history from Christine Hindwell, from John Kennedy and his researches into Skinningrove history and Kathleen Hicks with comments about occupations of the occupants of Albion Place.
Many thanks to Peter Day, Colin Hart, Derick Pearson, Kathleen Hicks, Elaine, Christine Hindwell, John Kennedy and Pauline Breeze for these updates.
Now have we already posted a photograph like this? I can’t remember but I am sure someone will tell me if we have. A lovely clear photograph of where the road used to go before being re- routed. Duck Hole to the far right of the picture, with the works on the hill and in the right foreground is the path that led up to the railway station.
The Training School Workshops (for Skinningrove works) were next to Whitecliffe Primary School on Kilton Lane, towards the Bullit pub. Later moving to what was called the Training Centre, near the Ambulance Station at the rear of Brotton Road. Derick Pearson tells of: “Senior School pupils used to go there from school for Woodwork lessons and the girls attended for Cookery and Needlework.”
Image courtesy of Carlin How Community Centre, thanks to Derick Pearson for the update.
This view across Carlin How square is looking towards the East Cleveland Co-operative Store, possibly from the road which after bridging the railway line was the access to Skinningrove works. The photograph dates from the early twentieth century at a guess (un-metalled roads and gas lamps) – wish life was this peaceful these days! Derick Pearson advises: “The area where the Maynard Arms car park now is, was the site of Riggs the Butchers. In the 1950s it was also Lloyds’ bank.” Present day Carlin How presents a more truncated Maynard Arms and of course the square is closed by the railing fencing, the main road now bypassing what was the heart of Carlin How.
Image courtesy of Carlin How Community Centre, also thanks to Derick Pearson for the update.
Everybody turn out for the photographer! It does help us put a date on the image though – turn of the century about 1899-1900, based upon the clothing – and about mid-day judging by the shadows! Derick Pearson feels that the disappearance of the chimney stack at the rear of Wesley terrace may assist in dating the image, can any body help?
This view here is taken from Kilton Lane (outside the fish and chip shop) towards the Power Station and part of Muriel Terrace. At the bottom right hand side of the view can be seen the former Carlin How Grand cinema. This still has the doorway, canopy, windows and lobby on the gable end. We now are told by Peter Hallinan: ”this was the ’Grand Electric Theatre’ and was owned from 1915 to 1929 by Thomas Thomson, who was a pioneer of cinema ownership in the North East of England in the early 20th century.”
Terry Clark tells us ”The bunting as you say was jubilee flags and the power station is at the top of Queen Street and in it place now is a modern-day community centre. I am Carlin How lad, born and bred; I was born in Rawlinson Street on the 6th June 1965 (’D Day’ 20 years after WWII ended) and behind the power station was a black wooden building called the Club Hall as it was the very first youth club in Carlin How; then the bottom end of Carlin How had their very own youth club behind St Helen’s church, it later moved to the building next to the Chapel near Corus gate house (it was called British Steel Corporation – BSC – or as us young folk call it Billy Smart’s Circus).” Stephen Thornton asked about ”a foundry in Carlin How, on Bell Vue Terrace….It may have been on the site of the ’Old Picture House’.” Our researches have uncovered: ”Yes, the old picture house was used as Eric Peel’s foundry, until he got the new one built near the British Legion or the ’Bullet’ as it is locally know, the foundry was built where Bells Huts used to stand. Eric Peel went into partnership with ? Jones hence the foundry being known as Peel & Jones.”
Image courtesy of Carlin How Community Centre, many thanks to Derick Pearson, Terry Clark and Peter Hallinan for the updates; also thanks to Stephen Thornton for the enquiry as well as to Brian Jemson (via Joan Jemson) and Maurice Pearson for the updates.
Do you remember the butchers, or the bank (now believed to have been Lloyds, then followed by Martins) that was at that corner before they extended the Maynard Arms, now a car park occupies their space. From the left the properties were Riggs (butchers shop), Mrs Collins (lodging house) and the four panelled window of the Maynard Arms (landlord was Thomas William Wood). This view of the Maynard Arms shows the landlord Thomas William Wood, his wife and eldest daughter Alethia (Lethie) standing at the door. Roger Barwick tells the Archive: ” My grandad Harold Bowling became landlord at the Maynard Arms around 1929 I think. He had been steward at the club from 1911 when it opened. Quite a number of people will remember his son Harold or Tim as he was known he became a policeman and was awarded the British Empire Medal for saving people during a storm in Staithes.”
Information kindly supplied by Derick Pearson and Jean Wiggins, also thanks to Alwyn Wood and Dan Holme for updates.
But not by this train – a local commuter makes its way across the skyline towards Loftus as the biggest shale heap in the area takes shape! This image provoked several comments: Graham Suggett asked: “Is the Kilton Viaduct the same as the Carlin How to Loftus Viaduct? Did the infilling start because of a cracked pier in 1911 to 1914; due to the mining of ironstone from underneath? My memories go back to the 1930′s. I was born in Carlin How and my grandparents lived at Liverton Mines. We moved to Darlington at the outbreak of WWII to escape the expected raids by the Bosch on the steelworks and Skinningrove Harbour. However, I was a regular visitor to Liverton Mines both during and after the War (I was there and saw the Lockheed Lightning crash). I knew the viaduct and Kilton Woods well, but never ventured beyond the railway station on the hill between Liverton Mines and Loftus.” Andrew Pryce commented: “As far as I know the Kilton Viaduct is indeed the Carlin How to Loftus viaduct, I used to cycle from Carlin How to Loftus along the railway track (before they were re-laid) it was a lot easier than going along the road used to get onto the old trackway from Kilton Lane by the footbridge, then it was an easy cycle to Loftus and my mate (Dave Bullock) lived in the old station house, that would have been about 1966.”Derick Pearson supplied the following: “The reason for the burying of Kilton Viaduct was the subsidence that resulted from Ironstone mining underneath the pillars. This became so bad that the line was closed in January 1911 and rail passengers carried between Loftus and Skinningrove in Motor char-a bancs. Approximately three-quarters of a million tons of spoil from the nearby mines were used to earth up the viaduct. Another railway bridge in the neighbourhood had also suffered considerably from the effects of subsidence. The railway line between Boosbeck and Brotton crosses the road from Lingdale to New Skelton by a single arch bridge. When this subsided a second bridge was built on top of it in order to maintain the railway at its correct level. The lower of the two brick arches has also had to be heavily reinforced with old rails. P W B Semmens, 52 Belle Vue Grove, Middlesbrough.“
Simon Chapman tells us: ”Messrs Bell Brothers wanted to mine ironstone from beneath the viaduct from their Carlin How Mine so arrangements were made to fill in the viaduct to support it from 1907. In January 1911 it was found that one of the piers had begun to crack because of unequal infilling so rail services were suspended for a fortnight to enable extra tipping to take place. Shale was tipped from Liverton and Loftus Mines and was completed by 1914.”
Image courtesy of the Pem Holliday Collection, thanks to Graham Suggett, Andrew Pryce and Derick Pearson for their updates. Many thanks to Simon for that definitive comment.
Rather strange to see Guisborough like this; the view of the road is now obscured by the estate of newer houses added in the 1970’s. What date would you put on this photograph?
Ann Findlay advises: ” The field opposite was used when the Fair came to town.” Image courtesy of the Pem Holliday Collection and viewed on a compiled by Derick Pearson, thanks to Ann Findlay (nee Whitaker) for the update.
Not the Manchester Coronation Street, but a bit nearer home; Carlin How Coronation Street with the air raid shelters in place 1943. The young boy in the photograph is named as Alan Dale; wise child has his steel helmet with him.
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